Last nail in the coffin for WA State Form 1 SBRs for 2015

Representative Brian Blake, one of the sponsors of the 2013-14 House Bill 1561 that allowed possession of SBRs in WA has been working to try to get the state Attorney General to clarify the state’s position on if filing ATF form 5320.1 (Application to Make and Register a Firearm) is permitted under the “acquire” language in RCW 9.41.190 (2), however since these questions have not been drafted yet & the 2015 legislative sessions are concluded, it is extremely unlikely that this issue will be clarified until the 2016 session.

Options still exist for those in WA who are willing to commit the time and money that plague the NFA game:

1. Purchase a complete SBR on a Form 4 from a dealer. Though, I have heard unconfirmed reports of SBR Form 4s being denied as well.

2. Complete the SBR in another state and relocate it to WA with a completed ATF Form 5320.20. This will require either a residence in another state, or that a trustee in one of those states completes the paperwork. I’d also strongly recommend a trust created in that state, and avoid any WA state specific confusion.

3. Contact one of the local dealers who is willing to take customer parts, file the ATF Form 2 to assemble it, and then wait on a completed Form 4 to return it to you. This may be the easiest option, but will incur additional cost. So far I’ve heard that Rainier Arms, Aero Precision, Pantel Tactical, and possibly MKX, LLC will be providing this service in some form or another.


Still looking grim for Form 1s in Washington

Another round of SBR Form 1 rejections came down this week from BATFE.

On the plus side, Form 1s, 3s, and 4s for Suppressors seem to be coming through normally, with a few independent reports that all WA state NFA forms were previously on hold pending an update from the state attorney general, but that hold has allegedly been lifted.


Updates have been slower since it’s summer, it’ll pick up after the July/August camping trips are all done.

Magpul’s AK lineup, better than fine.

Now that I’ve had a chance to hit the range a few times and run them through their paces, I’ve got a solid impression of Magpul’s AK offerings. The host firearm is a 2013 production Romanian WASR-10 with the following hardware changed from stock:

My WASR-10

My WASR-10

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UPDATE: ATF Form 1 denials from WA

This was recently posted on, hopefully it looks like a resolution is in sight.

So here is what I got from Brian Blake, the original sponsor of the bill.

A staff member at the DOL had a conversation with the ATF a few weeks back and the discussion centered on SB 5956, and lack of clarity and confusion about manufacturing SBR’s. This person is not a policy maker, but apparently the ATF person may have taken it that way. The head of Washington DOL Firearms Division will be contacting the ATF to let them know that the conversation was not with a representative allowed to direct policy on behalf of Washington State.

The AG’s office has not made any official statements on the bill at this time.

Also, the DOL did not advise the ATF to not approve the forms, nor did the AG’s office. The DOL’s position is that it isn’t their position to interpret the laws, and that it is up to the ATF to make their own interpretation.

Also, Thanks RichM for sending me Ted Clutter’s contact information and email addresses. Brian Blake and the DOL have that information now and they will contact Ted. The rest of you may want to not deluge Mr. Clutter with a bunch of emails. Brian says he will work on this. Please let him work through the process.


BREAKING: ATF NFA Branch Examiner Ted Clutter mass denying Form 1 SBR applications

Just today there have been a number of both e-filed and paper Form 1s for manufacturing an SBR rejected in WA citing “RCW 9.91.190(2)” which is not even a valid RCW.

RCW 9.41.190(2) states the following:

(2) It is not unlawful for a person to possess, transport, acquire, or transfer a short-barreled rifle that is legally registered and possessed, transported, acquired, or transferred in accordance with federal law
People have been assuming that making has been covered under the “acquire” language as the ATF have approved numerous Form 1s until today, 5/27
Apparently that has changed
UPDATE: Across the forums above and Facebook groups I’m in, I have counted between 30-40 independent reports of Form 1 SBR Denials.
Anyone else who has had a denial please send me the control number(s) below

Saker 762 and .300 Weatherby Magnum

Just got this e-mail back from Silencerco, in case anyone is interested:

From: Chris Wilkening

The calibers listed for the Saker 762 are “5.7mm to .300 RUM”, would this include .300 Weatherby Magnum?

Thank you,


From: K.C. Hutchinson (Wed, May 13, 2015 at 8:37 AM)
To: Chris Wilkening
Cc: Silencerco Accessories and Merchandise <>

Thank you for contacting us. You will be fine shooting 300 Weatherby Mag through Saker 762 so long as your barrel is 20″ or longer. Please let me know if there is anything else we can help you with.

Have a great day,